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Cheering Experimentation On Embryos

As expected, President Obama has reversed the Bush administration policy limiting federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.  No surprise, as the issue was cast as a right vs. left fight, with the supposedly “anti-science” right standing against “progress” and the “rational” left standing for those who might one day be helped by the results of such research.

Personally, I had a difficult time figuring out what I thought was the right answer.  But when I pose the question to myself in the simplest terms — Am I comfortable with experimentation on human embryos? — the answer I get is “no.”  Sure, I understand the arguments around whether or not an embryo is a “life”  — and I know that reasonable people can disagree about that.  But, after watching the development of my son, from a tiny, pulsating blob on an ultrasound screen, and feeling a connection to him from even that early stage, I cannot see human embryos as anything other than human.  Because that’s the way I see it, I’ve found that it now sickens me to think about embryos being torn apart in order to harvest the stem cells to be used in research.

Again, I understand that others do not see it as I do.  So, that brings us back to the question of what to do about it.  When he announced it, I was not particularly impressed with President Bush’s answer: limit funding to research conducted on existing stem cell lines (already taken from embryos), and otherwise do not allow federal money to be spent on the research.  This seemed like a very uncourageous approach.  It would not stop the research from happening (no outright ban), and, at the same time, would not promote much progress in the field.

But now I understand and appreciate it much more.  Such a policy does not attempt to make a determination as to the humanity of an embryo, thus avoiding the main issue at the core of the abortion debate.  It does not make the research illegal, but, it also doesn’t force someone like me to contribute financial support to something that I have come to find disturbing.  It puts the federal government exactly where it’s supposed to be — out of the picture.

What I don’t understand is, now that President Obama has reversed this policy, why people are cheering.  I mean, yeah, I get it, you didn’t think the government should be trying to stand in the way of science.  But the science was happening anyway.  So, in effect, you are cheering the fact that, now, people who find the idea of destroying embryos for research repugnant are being forced to financially support the practice.  That’s how it comes across.

And another thing, now President Obama is being portrayed as pro-science, as compared to the anti-science Bush.  But, apparently, there are some limits to Obama’s pro-science beliefs:

Obama also said the stem cell policy is designed so that it “never opens the door to the use of cloning for human reproduction.” Such cloning, he said, “is dangerous, profoundly wrong, and has no place in our society or any society.”

So, doesn’t this make Obama “anti-science?”  He set a limit to the type of research that is permitted — because he knows most people wouldn’t want their money spent on something they find morally repugnant.  Is that not pretty much the same thing that Bush did?  Also, “Mr. Obama revoked… the 2007 executive order that encourages the National Institutes of Health to explore non-embryo-destructive sources of stem cells,” (via WSJ).  That’s not anti-science?  Or does the science have to be morally debatable  to be worthy of government support?

March 9, 2009 - Posted by stanzy | Government | , , | 4 Comments

4 Comments »

  1. I would rather that embryos destined for destruction be used for science than go to the trash. So I’m cheering! In the whole scheme of things if I were one of those embryos I’d rather be used for possible good than for nothing at all. I’m definitely not falling for the whole Obama is pro this and Bush is con that. It’s silly and totally expected from our political parties. Don’t get me wrong though I do think Bush was a total moron.

    Anyway I wonder why there isn’t more hub-bub behind the whole creation of the embryos in the first place. That’s what would make sense to me. And by hub-bub I mean push for only creating embryos that will be implanted. (And NO not 8 embryos at a time!)

    Comment by Monnia | March 10, 2009

  2. Well if the point was that you don’t want your money going to this research than that should have been the title of your blog. Not “Cheering…” :D That’s what I was giving my opinion on- why I am cheering.

    Anyway I do understand both your points especially the part about your money going to something that you aren’t comfortable with. I’m not comfortable with my money going to fund octo-mom’s idiot choices, but it is. So finally something I do agree with that the gov’t is funding! To me it’s super exciting. Being closer to heal people who are ALIVE. I like it.

    As an aside, I do not like it either if embryos will be created just for research purposes. Miscarriages, abortions, extra fertility eggs ok, but otherwise not so much. In any case I’d like to believe that the extra gov’t funding isn’t going to all of a sudden create a rampant amount of “black market” embryo creation.

    Comment by Monnia | March 10, 2009

  3. Not sure what happened to the order of the comments here, but in response to your last comment about the creation of embryos simply for research purposes, I saw this in an article, today:

    “While I favor moving that moral line to additionally permit the use of spare fertility clinic embryos, Obama replaced it with no line at all. He pointedly left open the creation of cloned — and noncloned sperm-and-egg-derived — human embryos solely for the purpose of dismemberment and use for parts.”

    (From http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/03/using_embryoswithout_limit.html)

    Comment by stanzy | March 13, 2009

  4. I actually anticipated the “but they’re going to be destroyed, anyway” argument, and almost covered it in the post, but my post was already too long. Three things: First, whether or not they’re being destroyed anyway, the idea of *experimenting* on them still gives me pause. Second, I don’t believe anything in Obama’s reversal of Bush’s order limits research to only embryos that would have been created for fertility purposes — i.e., I don’t think embryo creation for the specific purpose of research is restricted, at all. And third, I actually *do* have a problem with the creation of a bunch of embryos, with most of them headed for destruction, for fertility purposes. I don’t think the ends justify the means in either case.

    But all of this still misses the point. Embryos were still being used for stem cell research, even without Obama’s reversal of Bush’s policy. The research was just not being funded by the government, and therefore, me. That’s the big issue here. There is plenty of room for reasonable disagreement on the ethics of this research. And, therefore, the many, many people who have a problem with it should not be forced to fund it.

    Comment by stanzy | March 10, 2009


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